Samsung's new QLC Flash could bring 16TB SSDs to market

[kiwigraeme]

Oh, I was going to ask you a series of questions to show you why you were wrong, but I guess we don't have to do that now. an HDD NAS can stream 4k video to several devices without issue. I honestly just want someone to make an argument as to why HDDs are obsolete now.

I have cupboard full of them , SD cards , portables - my wife keeps wanting me to find some photos of a horse - need to boot an old PC and hunt for those, by plugging in old drives, hardly hot swap material - as Pata drive or what the s name was for flat band ribbon.

I just want 2 cheap super reliable 1 PB drives to rule them all , 1 as main one as offline , of premises backup , Is that too much to ask

My main storage is still big drives , but I want my next build to have 3 or 4 M2/M3 whatever slots - 4Tb at least , 8 or 16 at best .
The main advantage is working speed - I encode remuxes for fun - fast drives speed that up big time

 

[zamroni111]

My attitude about enterprise drives - HDD or SSD - is unless you have a massive amount of drives operating (like "Amazon datacenter" massive), the up-charge on enterprise drives probably isn't worth is compared to simply replacing drives as they wear out. IIRC, Backblaze usually concludes the same thing during their reliability reports; if you only have a handful of drives, the real rate of failure will be low enough that the extra costs of the enterprise drives doesn't really work out favorably.
That said, that doesn't mean I don't want to fill this hypothetical flash NAS with nothing but enterprise SSDs.

The ssd in back blaze report are consumer ssd and most of them are low end sata with only 300x TBW.
No wonder they have such bad error rate as those drives are not even designed for main storage for today midrange desktop.

The SSD Edition: 2023 Drive Stats Mid-Year Review

Read the SSD Edition: 2023 Drive Stats Mid-Year Review and share your thoughts in the comments.

www.backblaze.com

 

[zamroni111]

I have cupboard full of them , SD cards , portables - my wife keeps wanting me to find some photos of a horse - need to boot an old PC and hunt for those, by plugging in old drives, hardly hot swap material - as Pata drive or what the s name was for flat band ribbon.

I just want 2 cheap super reliable 1 PB drives to rule them all , 1 as main one as offline , of premises backup , Is that too much to ask

My main storage is still big drives , but I want my next build to have 3 or 4 M2/M3 whatever slots - 4Tb at least , 8 or 16 at best .
The main advantage is working speed - I encode remuxes for fun - fast drives speed that up big time

You can get that 15TB ssd now at around 1500 dollars
Samsung, kioxia, micron etc makes datacenter ssd which has at least 3x full write than wd black or 990 pro.
You can buy them from cdw.com etc.

Samsung's new QLC Flash could bring 16TB SSDs to market

The 2024 edition of IEEE's International Solid-State Circuits Conference (ISSCC) is coming to San Francisco between February 18-22, and Samsung is seemingly ready to steal the show...

www.techspot.com

 

[AndreV]

We are regressing if the future is QLC...

If you think QLC is bad you must know that PLC drives have started to appear, and after that probably HLC.

 

[mbrowne5061]

The ssd in back blaze report are consumer ssd and most of them are low end sata with only 300x TBW.
No wonder they have such bad error rate as those drives are not even designed for main storage for today midrange desktop.

The SSD Edition: 2023 Drive Stats Mid-Year Review

Read the SSD Edition: 2023 Drive Stats Mid-Year Review and share your thoughts in the comments.

www.backblaze.com

I mean, sure, but Backblaze is looking at it purely from a cost perspective. It doesn't really matter if the error rates are high if you have enough redundancy to compensate - and using cheaper drives lets you increase your redundancy for the same cost. I'm sure there is a cross-over point, where fewer enterprise drives make more sense than an equal budget of discount drives, but I doubt most people (or businesses) ever really approach that scale if money is the only concern